Friday, April 10th 2009
STFU, Studio Reports: The Smashing Pumpkins
Down The Rabbit Hole That Is Billy Corgan
Yesterday, Billy Corgan posted a 2,407 word message on his blog, essentially defending a) all the not-so-great music he’s released since Adore, and b) his decision to continue releasing music as Smashing Pumpkins despite being the only remaining member.
My knee-jerk reaction, of course, is that this is just a man who no longer has the drive and hunger that he did in his twenties- he puts out one album under a brand new masthead, and when it doesn’t sell like Siamese Dream, he points fingers, gives excuses, and ultimately gives up. Personally, I feel that Corgan’s decision to operate under the name Smashing Pumpkins is a cheap, cowardly move. I admit, I have absolutely no right to judge. I’m just a random music fan that I don’t expect anyone to give a shit about. But personally, I’d like to see Corgan stick it out- start something new, independent of the past, and build that into something great.
I don’t know why I feel that way about Corgan as Smashing Pumpkins, but differently about Axl Rose as Guns N’ Roses. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that Axl never once considered any other option. When Zwan appeared, I wanted to see where it went. Same with Corgan’s solo album. I don’t feel like either were given a real chance, and so slapping a saddle on the old cash cow disappoints me.
But let’s check out Billy’s side of the story:
“One small detail that I think was beneficial to the band in the early years was we practiced a lot.”
I’m hoping that some sarcasm was involved here… But either way, he’s basically saying that he hasn’t worked like he used to, in a long time. Which I find almost… painful.
“Through all that playing you would easily come into contact with the emotional value of whether or not a song ‘worked’, so to speak. Add to that another 20-30 hours per week at home writing music and lyrics, and you can see I was very immersed in that process of checking my ideas between head, home, heart, and practice.”
Now we know why the Smashing Pumpkins were so great. And forgive me for stating the obvious, but it had nothing to do with the name, and everything to do with the commitment.
Corgan does his best to answer the question of why he’s continuing as Smashing Pumpkins, but it really comes off as a big excuse rather than an explanation.
What jumps out at me is his revelation that the “Smashing Pumpkins community” is active and interested. Which, of course, they are. And I get that some artists are greatly influenced by the interest (or lack thereof) of their fans. But it will always disappoint me when an artist makes decisions based on factors external to what is in their soul. Corgan seems convinced that Smashing Pumpkins is his destiny right now, but I can’t shake the feeling that if there was an equally large community gathered around, salivating for a new Zwan album, he wouldn’t need to be a Pumpkin anymore.
Corgan vocally disagrees with this naysayer though: “The fan is NOT responsible in any way, shape, or form for my happiness or the my ability to do my job.”
And he insists that he’s looking forward: “It is really important for me to re-state first and foremost that the band will remain now and forever about making new music.” I imagine emphasis on the word new. “This is where most of our energy over here belongs. That doesn’t say or mean to say anything negative about the past. In fact my posture on it is consistent with the original band vision, which was to always push forward.”
We’ll all probably bicker about all of this through armageddon- is Corgan a sellout? Is he crazy? Is he full of shit? And the answer probably lies somewhere in the vicinity of maybe. He is a musician after all. But fortunately, Corgan’s massive missive does make it to one compelling, exciting point, besides the loose promise of two other bands and new solo material.
Corgan says of 44 planned songs, “I don’t think I’m going to make albums in the old-fashioned way, meaning 12-15 songs… in one small package. My desire at this point would be to release one song at a time, over a period of 2-3 years, with it all adding up to a box set/album of sorts…”
Now this is interesting. Some pundits have theorized that the album is dead. In a recent open letter, Bob Lefsetz recently proclaimed: “You’ve got to stop making albums,” later elaborating: “A true fan wants more and more music by his favorite artist. But he doesn’t want it dropped like a bomb all on one day, he wants it released spread out over time. It’s like a relationship is collapsed to a week, with not only kissing and intercourse, but babies and divorce all at the same time. Whereas real life is an endless stream of small moments. Musicians should realize this, understand it’s a changed world.”
I’ve been hearing statements like this from Lefsetz and others for awhile now, and I’ve always been extremely skeptical. But I’m excited to hear that an artist as statured as Billy Corgan will be putting the theory to a real-world test. I want to know if I’m wrong or not. In this endeavor, we fully support Corgan- it’s bold and brave. Major labels don’t take chances like these anymore; only artists care enough about new ideas to stick their necks out for them. Whether Corgan succeeds or fails, the music industry will benefit, learn, and grow.
And so for that, we applaud the crazy son of a bitch. And I personally look forward to his new bands and solo albums… even more than I do to Nu-Smashing Pumpkins.








He should team up with Moby and start a creepy-looking electro-goth band. Now THAT would be fucked up.
Now, seriously, He was good once and he could be great again -once he gets rid of all the bullshit in his head, which, frankly, is quite impressive. Some kind of mental enema should do the job.
Stop giving a fuck and play, our dear, bald and lonely friend.
Thank you Skwerl, your post is right on target.
The problem with Billy is that he keeps talking about “us”, and “our”, and “we”, when discussing the band, but the fact is he has fired or alienated everyone in the band; those who made the band great, those who fans want to see again playing Pumpkins music. There is no “we” any more and it’s a joke.
He has treated the Pumpkins as merely one facet of the ongoing “Billy Corgan Project”, and he has lost sight of what made them so great in the first place. I know he feels that he is personally responsible for all the music the pumpkins produced, and maybe he is right, and if rumour is correct, he actually did play everything except drums (and maybe that too)on Siamese Dream and Melloncollie, but still, he seems to forget that the Smashing Pumpkins was a band, a live entity comprised of four individuals who, as far as performing live, could scarcely be touched by ANYONE.
I think that’s what has turned fans off over the last few years, expecting to see Iha and D’arcy as well as Jimmy and Billy, and then getting replacements instead, which was unsatisfying, to say the least. He needs to patch up his differences and get the original members back in the band, start rehearsing, (if that’s what he really wants) and TOUR!! without all the boo hoo crap about how he’s not “feeling” it anymore. You can’t do it alone Billy. Suck it up. We still love you.
Is Chamberlain still in the band? I could care less about D’Arcy and Iha – other than looking the part, they’re contributions were very limited.
“A true fan wants more and more music by his favorite artist. But he doesn’t want it dropped like a bomb all on one day, he wants it released spread out over time.”
That sounds RETARDED. Yes, I DO want all the music dropped on me like a bomb. I love the album format. Most true music fans still love that. If Billy is concerned about making singles, then he’s obviously out of touch with his fans, and more concerned about making cash.
Zeitgeist sucked ass. Chamberlin is gone. I see no hope for the band right now.
I’ll admit D’arcy’s playing wasn’t anything extraordinary as far as bass playing goes, but her contributions were still valid, especially live. Iha, on the other hand, was a great guitarist whose contribution is definitely missed.
Smashing Pumpkins always sucked.
I like the idea of both singles over time, and albums. I think a band can release singles over the course of the year, just those cool in between songs that get written. But I also think that a band needs to release albums every couple years or so, to establish major markers in their life/career. So you can look back as a fan and say this band was HERE with this album and they were THERE with that album. I just feel if you have all these singles spread out all over the place, there’s no major stories to look back on.
Or I just thought of this. A band can do what I just said: release singles over the course of the year (every year obviously), and every couple years release an album, as a marker of “here’s where we’re at”. OR the band can make an album and release the songs over the course of the year, and in this scenario they should be making an album every year, at the MOST every 2 years. And if they’ve got an album like Green Day’s upcoming 21st Century breakdown, where it’s a 3 part epic masterpiece, then they can release those 3 parts like 3 months apart. Give it in small servings.
Okay…I may as well write my own article on this now haha. It shall be done.
you cannot expect the same success without the original members however…. considering the Chicago Songs and Spun, this guy knows what the fuck he is doing. I think really, it comes down to whether he wants to do it or not.
also, Superchrist, Gossmer, Owata, Sunkissed, That’s the Way, Again, Again, Again, The Pox, Doomsday Clock, 7 Shades of Black, Tarantula, Pomp and Circumstances…. oh wait… to be honest, What the fuck is everybody’s problem? If you wanna sit in the coroner and listen to Leto and Way knock yourselves out.
Skwerl, I will fuck you up!
You can say what you will about Corgan, but I have an opinion on this.
I just think the guys heart is in the Pumpkins. I listened to Zwan and his solo record and found nothing of interest. It was disappointing as the Pumpkins have always been one of my favorite bands.
Zeitgeist was different. It’s heavy, it has great drumming and most of the songs have great guitar effects and vocal doubles. I loved the record and 2 years later, still listen to it quite often.
I think Corgan gives it all for his Pumpkins, and maybe he lost his way for a while…but he found his way back when Chamberlain got involved again.
His true test will be to see what he can do now that Jimmy is out again.
I wish him luck…
And I also wish he’d quit talking on behalf of the Ticketmaster/Live Nation merger. The only way for the musicians to get the power back is to go to indie labels and hire independent promoters.
Ticketmaster is a giant that needs to be slayed.
Chicago Songs
http://www.livepumpkins.net/audio/2004-04-19_metro_chicago/
wow, these tracks are pretty good. good looking out, hairboy. downloading…
Billy Uncle Fester Corgan has the most annoying voice of any frontman that has sang in a mainstream band…ever. I could never get into this band and I lived through the 90′s.
I saw them in Toronto for the two night shows of the 20 anniversery tour and it was awesome. I’m a fan of the catalog of the pumpkins and I truly think that their best song are’nt singles. I was disapointed with zeitgeist, but when I saw song for a son in Toronto.
Check on youtube. I was confisce that there’s hope for new masterpieces
And I know my english suck
I’ve never been a fan of double abulms. They usually end up being 1 album worth of good material spread out over 2 abulms.Example Red Hot Chili Peppers last album, Stadium Arcadium.But, Mellon Collie was brilliant, first to last track.Continues to be a go-to album if I’m feeling a little blue.
VefMoTDL Buy ha ha ha
stumbled across your article…and was inspired! Brought back high school memories. So i write my own post (and linked back to ya a couple times). Check it out! http://www.docstoc.com/docs/144593181/smashing ;-)