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Worst Cover By A Guy Who Wrote The Original Version Ever

By Skwerl, November 12th, 2009
 

I don’t even need to say anything at all here other than the B-side to Slash’s new single Sahara is a cover of Paradise City by Guns N’ Roses, featuring Cypress Hill, and Fergie of the Black Eyed Peas.

Slash & Fergie

Now Fergie should probably be in a rock band. Her vocal performance is by far the least shitty element. With that said, she’s no Axl. She’s not even corn-rows Axl. And while we dig Cypress Hill, this particular mismatch was made in whatever lies below hell. Even their collaboration with Sonic Youth was better, and you know how we feel about them.

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48 Responses to “Worst Cover By A Guy Who Wrote The Original Version Ever”
  1. Rory said:

    It’s funny how Slash was so high on a rock pedestal to me…and everytime I hear something in the news about him…he slides further down that pedestal.
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    This is a fucking embarrassment.

  2. Al said:

    Music is dead to me now.

  3. Johnny Firecloud said:

    This is a nightmarish horror-show of blasphemous anal pus.

  4. GameJerk said:

    I like Cypress Hill on their own but they seem like they and destroy things that I love when they collaborate:

    Exhibit A: This shitty Paradise City “cover”

    Exhibit B: :Pearl Jam/Cypress Hill collaboration on the Judgement Night Soundtrack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBGEYJF8nJY

  5. Peter said:

    “She’s not even corn rows Axl” that’s funny, because Axl sounds better than ever, especially better than 91-94 Axl. I’ve seen 3 shows of 2006/2007 tour and his voice was mindblowing and really stand out of the show (along with that wall of guitars which sounds great especially in Nightrain). He sounded horribly in 2001/2002 but in 2006 he was in full force. Also on Chinese Democracy he sounds fantastic. Just listen to that Welcome to The Jungle – scream at the beginning – HOLY SHIT !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-aymrWzhSk&feature=PlayList&p=68107A849D568D8D&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=19

    As far as Slash is concerned now I am happy that Axl took control over the band , at least he is playing old songs great giving them great justice, isn’t selling out ( he is even opposite to selling out), making great music and that tarnishing GN’R name, I gave up hope for Slash he truly is “whore for limelight” – collaborations with Paulina Rubio,Fergie,Rihanna,Pussycat Dolls sub par guitar work in VR, appearing everywhere – bookstores, american idol, guitar hero etc.

  6. Skwerl said:

    yeah, don’t get us wrong- gnr blew us away in ‘06. as documented here. and we liked chinese democracy more than all the people who reviewed it without listening to it. i guess “corn-rows axl” isn’t specific enough, but i was thinking of the ‘02 vmas. that was definitely a low point.

  7. Stoo said:

    Slash is a whore and a caricature. Plus last I checked he’s got a nice dad rock beer belly coming in…

  8. Peter said:

    yeah VMS were fail, but at least they tried and Axl didn’t compromise, he could release 4-5 albums by then and he didn’t cos he wanted superior product.
    Thanks for that review of show – great read.

  9. Rory said:

    I agree with Skwerl here…Chinese Democracy had a few awesome songs…most of them were the ones that were leaked years before the album came out.
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    And the New GNR is a great live show as well…I saw them perform many times.
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    It is nice to see Axl is finally touring in support of this record…he’s only a year too late.

  10. tng/dharma69 said:

    Timely as all, earlier today on FB I asked the question: “How often do you use the word ‘interesting’ as a synonym for ‘Wow, that sucked ass.’? I say without shame that I’m familiar with Fergie back to her pre-meth Wild Orchid days (2 not great albums but the girl trio vocals were hearty and MTV worthy). Just like on “Sweet Child ‘o Mine” her vocals here are on; glad for that. I, too, would like to see her ratchet it up a few notches and quit wasting her time with the trivial BEP. Other than that, this is interesting.

  11. zoopster said:

    I can’t seem to get the clip to play….. :(

    I would say Slash is just trying to bang Fergie by letting her be in his “band”, but I think he’s already got a hot girlfriend/wife???.

    I’m sure Cypress is kickin down the killer dank, tho.

  12. The Truth Hurts said:

    I think we’ve found the 2010 Superbowl Half-Time show!

  13. Johnny Firecloud said:

    Jesus you’re probably right.

  14. Evander said:

    Slash is a mess, this is beyond disappointing. This kind of shit just reinforces Axl’s ability…The guy may dress worth shit but the man can write with the best of em. Forget a reunion, keep the studio albums coming

  15. Peter said:

    Axl has proved that he can go without Slash to make high quality music, Slash didn’t he need Axl to write anything, VR was good but mainly because of Scott’s melodies , guitar work was average at best and all those collaborations sucks and shows and Slash is selling out all the way $$$$$$

  16. trucks said:

    Can someone direct me to all this high quality music Axl made without Slash? Dude’s still a better guitarist then any of you. Quit your bitching, turn this off and go listen to Appetite.

    Also, it will be The Who performing at the Super Bowl. Sorry to disappoint those of you who wished it was going to be the Axl Rose Project.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSTRE5AC0N320091113

  17. Peter said:

    trucks you’re kidding me. Yes Slash made awesome guitar music but it was 20years ago now he is shadow of his former self. If you told Slash from 87 that he will play with pop starlets and redoing PC with rappers he would smash his guitar on your head. And now Slash is not a guitar hero he is “whore for limelight”. And yeah for me songs like “Better” , “This I Love”, “Prostitute”, “There Was A Time”, “Madagascar”, “Catcher in the Rye” , “Sorry” are much better than anything Slash has released since quiting form Guns N’ Roses.
    Also Buckethead who is all over “Chinese Democracy” is much better guitarist than Slash was, is and will ever be. More emotion, much better technique, avantagarde style of playing, yeah he isn’t jumping all over the scene, isn’t smoking while playing, doesn’t have cool haircut, glasses and sleaze rock image but I am listening to music and Buckethead is far better guitarist than Slash.
    And Appetite is irrevelent, but maybe it is? slahs butchered one of the classic Songs , song that was so important for him. If Axl would record Welcome to The Jungle with Jaz-Z & Britney Spears all who defend Slash right now would be bashing Axl to extreme. But choosing artist between Axl and Slash is easy. Axl is an artist, one of the rock stars, isn’t rock n’ roll about doing want you want, how you won’t not looking at other and not giving a fuck about what others say and want to ? Axl is doing that, Chinese Democracy was big “Fuck You” for all people telling him what to do. Slash on the other hand was “forced” to relase other single because record company thought it would sell better, he was on American Idol, published book, made stupid apperance in Guitar Hero and made countless collaborations which are disgrace to his roots and music, and all of them sucked.
    Big LOL to working with Paulina Rubio, Rihanna, Cypress Hill, Michael Jackson, Vasco Rossi , Fergie and the best he played “When I Grow Up” with Pussycat Dolls at HIS concert, I am sure he didn’t play with Britney, Madonna , Jaz-Z, Kayne West beacuse
    1) they didn’t want – not everyone want to work with sell out
    2) they didn’t have free time in their schedule.

  18. trucks said:

    If Axl would record PC with Jay-Z and Britney, I would listen to it once, decide if it was good or not, and then go back and listen to the original. The original is not tainted for me, because it still exists in all its glory. Its not like this new song replaces every existing copy of the old one. I guess I just get over shit and dont hold rock stars to the standards that I think they should live to. If the dude enjoys what hes doing, what the fuck do I care? I still think Chinese Democracy is more of a tarnish to the GNR name then this song.

  19. zoopster said:

    I honestly don’t care who he’s playing with, or what he’s done recently; that doesn’t make my opinion on him. I dug and still dig Velvet Revolver and his work on those two albums, but whatever.

    Go see Slash play live, stand in front of the man and let him shred your face off. You will be convinced.

  20. Johnny Firecloud said:

    Regardless of the outcome and rationale, I love conversations like these. It’s good to see passion for music one way or another, as opposed to passion for simply talking shit.

  21. mal poli said:

    WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?!!!? IT’S JUST AWFUL.AWWWWWFUL. WHY GOD WHY? this is an earbleed period and everythig has kinda already been said about this crap so moving on to never listen to this again…thanks antiquiet, just what i needed in the morning :)

  22. Justin said:

    If Axl can piss all over the once respectable GNR, why can’t Slash? Really it’s not that bad. Not great, but not bad.

  23. Peter said:

    How is Axl tarnishing Guns N’ Roses name with “Chinese Democracy” ? Album got great reviews form most respectable music writers and overally is strong efforts and spiritual succesor to “Use Your Illusion” alums. How is Axl pissing on Guns N’ Roses image ?By preventing usage of songs in every shitty movie Slash wants it in, and in promoting Guitar Hero with his silly avatar as Guns N’ Roses Guitarist ( which his not, he is former guitarist. Also a little bit of history. Slash etc penned an agreement giving all the rights to Guns N’ Roses name to Axl Rose and then made an lawsuit over GN’R name how cool is that ? Also Slash is toying with fans psyche , fans like you. Axl made it public – he called Slash a “cancer” and “whore for limelight” latter being 100% true. And Slash at first was talkign shit over Axl all the time, than changed tactic and started talking postive things in the press while next flood of lawsuits against Axl were in court. And there is third side of the story – Scott Weiland who was talking shit about Axl ( in the infamous for Slash case of home visit in Axl’s house when it was loud and clear than Slash is LIAR when talking to press and fan) and then when he was fired he made interview when he stated that band was telling him lies about Axl all the time and he apologized Axl for things he said, also se said “now I know how Axl feels”
    In conclusion seeing Slash collaborations, need to perform with really bad popstars , taking huge part in media live I am glad that Axl has all the right to the Guns N’ Roses name, he wasn’t, isn’t and won’t be selling out. He will keep Guns N’ Roses legacy in good hands. And for Slash he squeezed almost everything he could out of GN’R name. In 2002 it wasn’t that clear, Axl made totally horrible tour and there were rumours of him re-making “AFD” Slash said ” Axl remakes Appetite and my lawyers will remake his balls” now he is re-making part of AFD and important part I hope Axl will destroy him in court as he always did.
    And for zoopster I’ve seen Slash play live it was cool experience and I have very fond memories of that moment but I have seen Buckethead playing and that blew my mind , Slash isn’t worthy of carrying this guy guitar. as far as guitar playing is concerned. And also Guns N’ Roses at Rock Am Ring in 2006 was much better than VR show.

  24. trucks said:

    May I ask what makes one a “respectable music writer”? Is it one you like and read? Is it for a major source like Rolling Stone? What exactly is it? (BTW I don’t care what they have to say, the album blows to me and is an embarrassment to the GNR name).
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    If Axl cared so much about the sanctity of the GNR name he would drop it altogether and release albums as Axl Rose or some other name. The band died a long time ago.
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    And I think it’s a bit of a stretch comparing re-making an entire album with a whole new band to one B-side cover.
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    Calm down fan boy.

  25. Peter said:

    “Calm down fan boy” said by fanboy.

    Why it is a stretch ? Oh yeah I’ve got it. Axl actually didn’t released anything covering old songs and Slash did so yeah it is a stretch.

    A lot of bands change lineups ,and why Axl would have jump out of sinking ship ? All other members left giving him singned papers to Guns N’ Roses name. So Alice Cooper should also call it a day because other members of Alice Cooper band left ? WhiteSnake ? AC/DC and Alice Chains both lost songwriters and charismatic frontmans? Van Halen? And you know what last time I checked Axl was the major songwriter , writing majority of Guns N’ Roses hits – November Rain, Estranged, Breakdown and co-wrote other with Izzy Patience, Don’t Cry, You Could Be Mine etc. And Izzy left because he didn’t like band being big. And Slash hired Matt Sorum even before Steven was fired ( in fact Axl was the last to sign papers about Steven ). What song Slash wrote ? hmm none ? Yeah Snakepit song which sucked.
    Maybe you should be the first to proclaim that Alice Cooper isn’t Alice Cooper beacuse other founding members left. I know one think Axl wrote one of the best songs in history ( November Rain, Estranged etc) they were touching and something more than rock n’ roll playing, he had vision Slash vision was to get drunk and stoned and write generic blues-rock music as he did after quiting Guns N’ Roses. Axl was never addicted to anything and he wants to make music , not cash but music maybe you don’t like that music, some others do it is all down to taste, but Axl Rose is the last true rock star – doing what he wants, how he wants and when he wants no matter consequence and isn’t rock n’ roll about that ? Rock N’ Roll isn’t about money, fame, American Idol, mocking one’s image etc. It is about passion and Axl Rose still has it and would you know more about his struggles you could understand that. How could music he created in the band he owns be an embarrassment if he did it only for artistic reasons, he didn’t make CD for money, fame ect. You just can get over the fact that Axl is in the band and Slash isn’t. Because many bands change lineups sometimes dramatically and Axl in fact changed the lineup with better musicans , unless you want to question abilities and skill of Buckethead, Brain Mantia, Tommy Stinson etc.

    BTW David Frincke is very respected musical journalist not only my opinion . Classic Rock stuff is also very good.

  26. trucks said:

    I don’t even know where to begin. Your rambling wins. I quit.

    “You just can get over the fact that Axl is in the band and Slash isn’t. ”

    I’m not even that big of a fan, but I find it interesting, your psychological analysis of a few comments. You have any other insights? I’ll take it while it’s free.

  27. trucks said:

    “Album got great reviews form most respectable music writers”

    You named one. Is one most in your world?

  28. zoopster said:

    I would put Slash, Duff, and Matt Sorum up against Buckethead, Stinson and Mantia any fucking day. It’s not even a competition.

  29. zoopster said:

    I could write volumes, but will only respond to the last and most least of that rant: it’s Fricke not Frincke, and he’s an old fag anyway.

  30. Evander said:

    Had a long drive today, Use Your Illusion 2 is fucking insane…14 years, breakdown, pretty tied up, loco, estranged, ycbm…UNDERRATED

  31. Peter said:

    Yeah and majority of those songs were written only by Axl anyway. Maybe someone would put Slash and co. over Buckethead Stinson and Brain but it doesnt matter I dont ask who you preffer but who is better instrumentalist. And thanks for showing spelling mistake he is old thats why he has great indight. Trucks learn to read please? I named David and Classic Rock stuff as a whole and Classic Rock is one of the best rock magazines around if not the best. And they reviewed CD 3 times do you want me to go through and give you names? I can do that but its childish. I just refuse to unmature statements that CD is emberasstment to Guns N’ Roses. You dont like it thats fine with me but calling it that way is kind of fanboy point. I respect everything that was created because of passion to art even when I dont personally like it. And thats the story of CD it was made of passion not because of fane, money etc and thats qhat Slash is doing he is selling out Axl isnt thats why respect Axl Duff Izzy far more than Slash they are not selling out their passion and their music to whoever pay the most. And thats why I am glad legacy of Guns N’ Roses is in good hands oterwise we would have 3-5. Half assed Guns N’ Roses records with Slash Duff Sorum Gilby and some other dude on vocals. And Slash Duff werent even founding members of the band and compared to Axl and Izzy had litle songwriting credits.

  32. zoopster said:

    It’s not preferential. Hands down, Slash, Duff and Sorum are better instrumentalists. Sorum, incredible meter and timing and stamina. A fucking true professional. Duff, insanely in the pocket, amazing basslines, Slash…..well, to be honest I’m not sure why everyone is questioning Slash’s playing ability. It’s not even up for questioning.
    And together, they have an intense groove the other guys can’t ever begin to match. Yeah the new band is playin’ the right notes, but that doesn’t make them better instrumentalists.
    They are hired guns anyway so why even make the argument about who wrote what? Axl tells those guys what to play. He doesn’t have any other real songwiters in his band now anyway. And it’s a fact that GnR’s best songs were written by Izzy, not Axl, so WTF?( I don’t care how many times you cite November Rain, Double Talkin’ Jive KILLS that song) You’re giving Axl far too much credit for GnR’s success. Slash wrote or co-wrote some damn good songs. Duff is a great songwriter too.
    Both Appetite and Lies are credited to the band, not just Axl. And axl not only bullied his way into majority writing credits on early GnR stuff, he took credit at times for songs written by others. And above all else, it’s the instrumentalists who give the band their trademark sound and feel.
    Case in point: Alice in Chains.
    The Axl Rose sideshow doesn’t even sound like Guns anymore. I question the level of “writing” Axl gives guys like Tobias, Stinson and Mantia credit for on Democracy.

    With all that said, I really think Chinese Democracy is a great album.

  33. zoopster said:

    And c’mon, the song in question really isn’t that bad. Fergie actually is hitting notes Axl has to strain for. That’s hot.
    In the annals of shitty covers/versions of rock classics, nothing can be worse than the hideous Kashmir/Godzilla mashup Jimmy Page somehow let slip…..’member that one kids?

  34. trucks said:

    Sorry dude, it’s just hard to read what you write. I understand English is probably not your first language, but don’t tell me to learn to read. I didn’t take the easy shot and tell you to learn how to speak English.

  35. Peter said:

    trucks you asked me to name writers I did it and you still coming up with that subject. You want names that’s coll I’ll read through Classic Rock Magazine and give you names.
    zoopster yeah it’s preferential, Sorum is good drummer I won’t question that. But he is not in Josh Freese, Brian league, ask anyone who play drums and play them Sorum track and Brain track there are huge differences in technique and feel. Duff has great style but isn’t that good he is average , he even said that numerous times in interviews that there he isn’t great bassist. And comparing Slash and Buckethead is disgrace to Buckethead, I know Slash style from page to page, I love his play in Guns N’ Roses, his Alice Cooper collaborations are also awesome. But Buckethead is virtuoso, he doesn’t play in one scale all the time, is more versatile, better technique ( Slash said that he couln’t shred at all), more emotion in play. He is avantgarde guitarist – he has unique style and unique technique, his use of killswitch is ground breaking.
    As a band Slash, Duff, Izzy, Axl wrote great songs but it doesn’t make them extraordinary instrumentalists.
    I know what Izzy wrote great songs but Axl wrote awesome songs too, they were two major songwriters and Axl make also arrangements, lyrics etc.
    “Patience” was written by Axl & Izzy not by Guns N’ Roses, in fact Slash and Duff hated that song on record and did almost everything to prevent it from being released and what’s funny they covered it in VR. Slash and Duff hated every other song that simple rock n’ roll, no ballads, no orchestra etc. And Axl wanted Queen meets Elton John songs as well. And yes Axl version of Sympathy of Devil is more interesting than thing Slash wanted it to be.

  36. zoopster said:

    In hindsight,perhaps you are right, it is preferential. At least we can agree they are all incredible musicians.
    I’d still take Slash/Duff/Sorum. Sometimes from the heart trumps avant-garde.

    Nevertheless, Arpeggio sweeps and toggle-switch harmonic gimmickry aside, I have noticed that Bumblefoot, Finck and Buckethead are all playing some decidely….hmmmm……Slash-esque lead parts on Democracy. Wonder why that is?

    Can’t take anything away from Josh Freese.

  37. Skwerl said:

    the original gnr was one of my favorite bands of all time. and slash was one of, if not the, best guitarist of that entire era. but i haven’t seen him ’shred’ any ‘faces off’ of anything (unless that’s what happened to fergie’s) in awhile. buckethead and robin finck were (are) both at least as good now as he was then, and definitely better than he is now.

  38. zoopster said:

    lmao. By the looks of that pic, Slash’s face is lookin pretty shredded also……….

  39. Peter said:

    Yeah I agree for me they are both great sets of instrumentalists. I am guitarist myself and Slash was the reason why I started playing guitar, but his style is based on one scale and signature bends , Buckethead is more not only on “Chinese Democracy” where he has some great stuff but his solo stuff is mindblowing , he isn’t fast shredder at all, his technique is clinical but he has very emotional and moving stuff as well, his Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door solo is one of my favourite -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1LU4f_emW0. Also his “Nightrain” solos were insane.
    As for Slash I have problem with him, and it’s not based on the fact that he left Guns N’ Roses and Axl hates him and vice versa so I have to choose sides and adore one of them and hate other one. I have a problem with Slash based only on his music collaboration with Pualina Rubio shouldn’t happen, playing Pussycat Dolls songs on his concert – WTF? Slash of 87 would laugh at the idea of him playing such stuff. Also he stated many times how much he hates SCOM and Patience and still both are regular tracks on his setlist/VR setlist and “Patience” is strange because in fact Duff nor Slash had no artstic input in that song and hated it to extreme back in the day. I would like Slash to record real stuff not for money but for himself, fans etc not some half-assed efforts as his playing in VR ( And I still dig some VR stuff but I think it is because of Scott’s melodies because guitar playing is very generic).
    Also comments that Chinese Democracy was emberrassement just shows hatred toward Axl nothing more, I would use such words to describe any art made of passion. And Chinese Democracy is above all result of passion , passion for music. I understand why a lot of people will hate it only for Axl but for me it is spiritual successor to “Use Your Illusion”. And Slash has used Guns N’ Roses to promote himself , Axl never did it. Why on the cover of Guitar Hero and in game he is labeled as Guns N’ Roses guitarist not a world about VR ?
    Axl could go solo , it would be more successful and he wouldn’t have negative press and tons of expectations, but maybe he really loves that band and what it represent, he was founding member ( Slash wasn’t) and major songwriter also he choose to stick to in every situation ( other members didn’t care about it when they signed the papers leaving all rights to Axl) and maybe Guns N’ Roses mean to him that “fuck you,alone against the world “attitude because he still has this attitude.
    It was controversial decision, and he knew how much backslash he will receive for that and still made that move…

  40. BDSaintJ said:

    I think it all boils down to karma or something like it. The catacysmic event that occurs when the right people are together at the right time. I agree that Brain, Finke, Buckethead, & Stinson are probably better musicians in a clinical sense. Slash and Duff have both admitted that they are not “great” guitarists. However, you can not deny the fact that when Duff, Slash, Izzy, Steve and Axl got together in 1987 and recorded AFD there was some kind of sonic convergence. These average to good musicians apart, when together, created what may end up being one of the greatest Rock records of all time. I have seen them live, the old and the new. Frankly I enjoyed the latest incarnation much more live than the old line up. The last time I saw the old line up was at MSG in NYC on the tour with Metallica and Skid Row opening. Axl was late as hell (and I had a spanish final the next day), Slash had to restart a few songs and was pretty noticeably innebriated – it was a good show but not one of my all time favorites. I saw the new lineup in 07 in B-more, MD and I have to admit it blew the two other times I saw them away. The show was polished and professional, the musicianship was stellar and AXL was a whirlwind dervish. I would love to see the original lineup back together (thought you can leave Adler out – Sorum was way better), but if thats not going to happen I will still be a fan of the current incarnation. Come on Van Halen was still Van Halen even when they were really Van Haggar.

  41. zoopster said:

    Saw Slash on George Lopez the other night. He said his album is going to feature a different singer on every song. Hmmmmm…..

  42. Martin said:

    It’s all about spirit, always keep in mind that rock and roll isn’t just music, is also a way of seeing things.
    The first Guns and Roses, was the blend of five souls, that wanted to play ROCK AND ROLL.
    The new Guns and Roses, is a blend of visions of a man, who look a the evil/holy spirit of rock and roll in the eye, and said: “ok, that was good…but today, isn’t yesterday anymore”…So I proposed that the old GNR write some songs, that the new GNR record it, and that the old GNR go on tour.
    We can spent hours discusing…but Slash will contiunue to play with some shitty pop starlet, and Axl will continue to make music giving a shit what people think…cause that’s the way they see it. I mean, it’s great that some 15 year old, see that magnanimus ass of Fergie and think…”hey, whose the guy with the hat?” and then go and buy Apetitte. And it’s great to hear from Axl once in a while. So, let’s cut the bullshit and enjoy…if not the jonas brother are gonna get ya…

  43. Peter said:

    Yeah I agree but out of two Axl is true artist.He just do what he wants, where he wants and when he wants not giving fuck about opnion of other. For me it’s what rock n’ roll is about. Yeah BDsaint J hit the nail of the head – they weren’t awesome musicans but 5 of them created one of the best rock n’ roll albums if not the best

  44. trucks said:

    You keep saying Axl is the true artist does what he wants? Has it ever occurred to you that Slash is enjoying what he’s doing and not giving a fuck about what Peter, the dude who would suck Axl’s cock, has to think?

  45. zoopster said:

    You have to remember, when you’re working with a psychopath like Axl, you gotta concede on a lot of shit or the guy is gonna flip out and steamroll ya. Hence, the songwriting/royalty issues and ultimately the breakup and the name of the band being passed on to Axl. Chinese Democracy wasn’t so much “fuck you” to critics and the record industry as it was an effort in self indulgence by a megalomaniac. Great album. Shouldn’t have taken 14 fucking years to make.

  46. Peter said:

    yeah trucks I insulting is the only thing you can do ? And still you do it badly.
    Slash doing what he wants and not giving a fuck ? Wasn’t he saying that record company wanted other single to promote an album (Libertad) than the band and they had to agree? Isn’t he they guy who talks so mich how he was forced by guy he hired (Weiland) to write music he didn’t like? Slash gives a fuck about others – countless interviews on the matter of Axl ( mostly lies he even self contradicted himslef dozen times) and Scott just do not support your flawed theory. Oh and wasn’t Slash the guy who lost in court for ripping off whole instrumental part along with riffs of the song he hasn’t written.
    Axl on the other hand when record company sent him a producer just took his car on the ride through those producer’s CDs
    But I won’t respond to your other rants – he can’t keep culture in your discussion why should I bother? I like to argue but only when sides have points of view to exchange. Insulting, showing lack of respect for others etc is very poor imitation of discussion.

    zoopster they thing with name of the band wasn’t totally different case. The band just passed all the right to the name to Axl in 1991 and they weren’t forced to. Under USA law if they were forced in any way such paper would be not valid. They just passed him rights and royality issue is simple – cosidering AFD, Lies,SPI?every one gets his share, UYI is by songwriting credits or something.
    I generally agree with your decscription of Chinese Democracy that is was and effort in self indulgence but that “fuck you” is also there not in art aspect but in the way he didn’t care about haters, record company, time to make etc also he didn’t promote it in any way and it sold over 5mln copies worldwide not THAT Bad but far from Great.
    And Yes it shouldn’t have take 14 years to release it.

  47. iPhantom said:

    I’m sorry Peter, but I won’t let you go away with that bullshit you’re writing. Slash never siad he can’t shred. In fact, the outro of Paradise City is a shred.

    Also Slash doesn’t use one scale all the time, by saying so you’re just showing how you have never listened any other GNR except the top hits. Get back at me when you find out that Slash uses a variety of scales, including Dorain modes, also the Phrygian scale at Double Talkin Jive, Harmonic Minor at Sweet Child O’ Mine.

    I guess you just heard that form those pathetic Slash haters but it’s just nonsense.

    Also, Buckethead with GNR was horrible. He destroyed all those great songs with his pathetic fast playing. The outro of November Rain isn’t supposed to contain shredding, it bled my ears. Can that guy play some slow song without shredding at all? I heard all the new GNR live concerts and none of them plays SCOM fast part solo right. It contains very easy bends but it’s a bit tricky to make it sound exactly like Slash does. Check the UYI 2 live version of Slash and you will see how it is performed.

    On top of that, check out the recent Slash & Friends Nightrain cover. It’s arguably the best version of it instrumentally-wise. Slash hasn’t lost its touch… but he has his bad times like back in the day.

  48. terje said:

    you have no idea iPhantom. All fanboys like you should fuck off.

    You may have two good real points in the text, the rest could be replaced with “I love slash, i like to lick ass”

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