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	<description>online blogging killed the restroom graffiti industry</description>
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		<title>By: Neal Chang</title>
		<link>http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2008/09/cold-war-kids-review-censored/#comment-19957</link>
		<dc:creator>Neal Chang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everybody expects this star to create more succesfull songs.</description>
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		<title>By: Cold War Kids Tour Journal / Berlin &#124; Antiquiet</title>
		<link>http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2008/09/cold-war-kids-review-censored/#comment-4442</link>
		<dc:creator>Cold War Kids Tour Journal / Berlin &#124; Antiquiet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] reaction to the fiasco caught the attention of the Cold War Kids themselves, specifically vocalist Nathan [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Skwerl</title>
		<link>http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2008/09/cold-war-kids-review-censored/#comment-3769</link>
		<dc:creator>Skwerl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 05:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it wasn&#039;t a download, it was a review with one streaming track. the band and label later both contacted us, separately, in full support. and grayzone, dorothy sherman&#039;s legal outfit, rescinded their cease and desist, admitting it was a mistake.
glad you dig the blog... just wanted to set the record straight: all interested parties now agree that we were in the right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it wasn&#8217;t a download, it was a review with one streaming track. the band and label later both contacted us, separately, in full support. and grayzone, dorothy sherman&#8217;s legal outfit, rescinded their cease and desist, admitting it was a mistake.<br />
glad you dig the blog&#8230; just wanted to set the record straight: all interested parties now agree that we were in the right.</p>
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		<title>By: JLove</title>
		<link>http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2008/09/cold-war-kids-review-censored/#comment-3768</link>
		<dc:creator>JLove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new world order is cool, but rants like this always fall flat.  A band and  label make a record at considerable cost, and the Fireclouds and his dicksucking minions think they are doing them a favor by stealing it.  Or receiving it stolen second hand or telling people where to steal it.  It&#039;s all the same, really, and you can rationalize it any way you want.  Don&#039;t care if you bought a t-shirt or concert ticket, that doesn&#039;t make you a good guy.  Different bands and labels handle promotion and marketing differently.  Some will freely give their &quot;baby&quot; away hoping it pays dividends in other ways.   I like that and it does get me to become a fan of some bands I wouldn&#039;t have otherwise. Some bands and labels offer designated tracks for free to drive interest.  At the end of the day though, it&#039;s their hard work and sweat and money that created this art.  It&#039;s OK to be disappointed if they don&#039;t want to let you do what you want with it.  To be angry though just makes you look like an asshole.  Sorry it does.  And I knew the record was coming out last Tuesday because I&#039;m a fan.  I know a lot of other fans too.  I like this blog, but as someone who worked in the music industry and understands the economics labels and BANDS have to deal with - I have no patience for ignorant rants.  Stick to doing what you do best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new world order is cool, but rants like this always fall flat.  A band and  label make a record at considerable cost, and the Fireclouds and his dicksucking minions think they are doing them a favor by stealing it.  Or receiving it stolen second hand or telling people where to steal it.  It&#8217;s all the same, really, and you can rationalize it any way you want.  Don&#8217;t care if you bought a t-shirt or concert ticket, that doesn&#8217;t make you a good guy.  Different bands and labels handle promotion and marketing differently.  Some will freely give their &#8220;baby&#8221; away hoping it pays dividends in other ways.   I like that and it does get me to become a fan of some bands I wouldn&#8217;t have otherwise. Some bands and labels offer designated tracks for free to drive interest.  At the end of the day though, it&#8217;s their hard work and sweat and money that created this art.  It&#8217;s OK to be disappointed if they don&#8217;t want to let you do what you want with it.  To be angry though just makes you look like an asshole.  Sorry it does.  And I knew the record was coming out last Tuesday because I&#8217;m a fan.  I know a lot of other fans too.  I like this blog, but as someone who worked in the music industry and understands the economics labels and BANDS have to deal with &#8211; I have no patience for ignorant rants.  Stick to doing what you do best.</p>
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		<title>By: insider</title>
		<link>http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2008/09/cold-war-kids-review-censored/#comment-3730</link>
		<dc:creator>insider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 22:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fuck the label- listen to the music for what it is - genius.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fuck the label- listen to the music for what it is &#8211; genius.</p>
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		<title>By: Download New Cold War Kids, Of Montreal, &#38; Kings Of Leon Albums &#171; MK Music</title>
		<link>http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2008/09/cold-war-kids-review-censored/#comment-3692</link>
		<dc:creator>Download New Cold War Kids, Of Montreal, &#38; Kings Of Leon Albums &#171; MK Music</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 23:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Label Pissed at Cold War Kids review Of Montreal Delays Their Leaked Album Elitists Hate Kings of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johnny Firecloud</title>
		<link>http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2008/09/cold-war-kids-review-censored/#comment-3647</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Firecloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the input. As for the flowchart, I&#039;m workin&#039; on it, with the active controlled experiment being my little girl. I usually make a point of asking most of the artists I interview what kind of music they were raised on, and a good deal of the time they give the most bizarre answers. There&#039;s something to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the input. As for the flowchart, I&#8217;m workin&#8217; on it, with the active controlled experiment being my little girl. I usually make a point of asking most of the artists I interview what kind of music they were raised on, and a good deal of the time they give the most bizarre answers. There&#8217;s something to this.</p>
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		<title>By: saimagery</title>
		<link>http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2008/09/cold-war-kids-review-censored/#comment-3646</link>
		<dc:creator>saimagery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;By saying they don’t want your attention anyway, they’d be effectively sabotaging the career of the band they’re representing. That potential fan is one less ticket sold, one less t-shirt or physical CD sold at the show, one less voice in the crucial word-of-mouth uprising that’s fast becoming the only thing media-conscious music lovers trust nowadays&quot;

Very true, apart from the fact that that one word of mouth is just as likely to swing the other way and bring them negative publicity. The most interesting part of this is that should any of this affair drag into sales/touring/merch, it has nothing to do with the music. That&#039;s kind of sad, but with the growing influence of the internet, and the freedom of expression and influence that blogs/review sites/labels/bands can have, the personality attached to a band is more and more likely to influence the sales.

I mean, if The Beatles were known by everyone to be complete douchebags after album two, would people still buy their albums? You didn&#039;t know what they were like as people. We didn&#039;t know what Apple Records were like as a company. We just liked the music. 

Awesome column though, wholeheartedly agree. Someone needs to do a flowchart of a child brought up on various music styles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;By saying they don’t want your attention anyway, they’d be effectively sabotaging the career of the band they’re representing. That potential fan is one less ticket sold, one less t-shirt or physical CD sold at the show, one less voice in the crucial word-of-mouth uprising that’s fast becoming the only thing media-conscious music lovers trust nowadays&#8221;</p>
<p>Very true, apart from the fact that that one word of mouth is just as likely to swing the other way and bring them negative publicity. The most interesting part of this is that should any of this affair drag into sales/touring/merch, it has nothing to do with the music. That&#8217;s kind of sad, but with the growing influence of the internet, and the freedom of expression and influence that blogs/review sites/labels/bands can have, the personality attached to a band is more and more likely to influence the sales.</p>
<p>I mean, if The Beatles were known by everyone to be complete douchebags after album two, would people still buy their albums? You didn&#8217;t know what they were like as people. We didn&#8217;t know what Apple Records were like as a company. We just liked the music. </p>
<p>Awesome column though, wholeheartedly agree. Someone needs to do a flowchart of a child brought up on various music styles.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Firecloud</title>
		<link>http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2008/09/cold-war-kids-review-censored/#comment-3636</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Firecloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan - If Downtown does pull their heads out of their asses long enough to respond, doing so in such a manner would earn them enemies that they can&#039;t afford to have. 

By saying they don&#039;t want your attention anyway, they&#039;d be effectively sabotaging the career of the band they&#039;re representing. That potential fan is one less ticket sold, one less t-shirt or physical CD sold at the show, one less voice in the crucial word-of-mouth uprising that&#039;s fast becoming the only thing media-conscious music lovers trust nowadays. A well-placed and well-worded voice of dissent speaks a lot louder these days than it did a few years ago.

But these are (hopefully) all hypotheticals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan &#8211; If Downtown does pull their heads out of their asses long enough to respond, doing so in such a manner would earn them enemies that they can&#8217;t afford to have. </p>
<p>By saying they don&#8217;t want your attention anyway, they&#8217;d be effectively sabotaging the career of the band they&#8217;re representing. That potential fan is one less ticket sold, one less t-shirt or physical CD sold at the show, one less voice in the crucial word-of-mouth uprising that&#8217;s fast becoming the only thing media-conscious music lovers trust nowadays. A well-placed and well-worded voice of dissent speaks a lot louder these days than it did a few years ago.</p>
<p>But these are (hopefully) all hypotheticals.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
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		<dc:creator>d</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Declaring War on the Ocean

This NEEDS to be the title of something....</description>
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<p>This NEEDS to be the title of something&#8230;.</p>
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